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04/08/2009, 11:35 AM Seadog Joined on 05/03/2007 Posts 605 Re: CCTV - Church Lane is still cordoned off following an alleged 'sex attack' early this morning.    Report

30/08/2009, 7:46 PM landcat Joined on 01/07/2009 Posts 28 Re: CCTV - Maybe there should be a CCTV mast erected in Church Street. Future attacks can then be carried out around the corner.    Report

30/08/2009, 8:07 PM landcat Joined on 01/07/2009 Posts 28 Re: CCTV - I apologise for the last post, it was stupid of me. Nobody's going to pay for a CCTV mast on Church Lane. Maybe Seadog could stand on the corner of Church Lane and alternate shifts with Local Yocal. I 'll bring you down a sandwich now and then. You could both be sidmouths CCTV masts.    Report

31/08/2009, 10:16 AM Local Yocal Joined on 01/04/2008 Devon Posts 172 Re: CCTV -  landcat wrote: I apologise for the last post, it was stupid of me........  Certainly got that bit right....keep it up sonny jim and you might post something sensible one day.      Report

01/09/2009, 10:56 AM Audrey Joined on 27/08/2009 Posts 8 Re: CCTV - That will never happen. Seriously though, fix a camera to your hat and stand very still in the street. Criminals will disappear and crime will plummet.    Report

02/09/2009, 3:42 PM Seadog Joined on 05/03/2007 Posts 605 Re: CCTV - I'd rather the chamber of commerce use the money that was donated over 2 years ago to fit the cameras rather than mess up one of my titfers.    Report

26/09/2009, 10:43 AM Local Yocal Joined on 01/04/2008 Devon Posts 172 Re: CCTV - Is the CCTV project still ongoing? Have the donations been returned to those that contributed?      Report

27/09/2009, 4:48 PM landcat Joined on 01/07/2009 Posts 28 Re: CCTV - The whole business is as dead as a dodo. Whoever has got your money should account for it.    Report

03/10/2009, 1:10 PM Seadog Joined on 05/03/2007 Posts 605 Re: CCTV - time to give back the money. CCTV call after Sidmouth fire devon.editorial@archant.co.uk 03 October 2009 A SIDMOUTH businesswoman is highlighting the need for CCTV in the town after a blaze destroyed the entrance to her restaurant. The fire, which happened sometime between 10pm on Wednesday and 7am on Thursday, is believed to have started in a wheelie bin at the front of Tudors in High Street. Although the shop front is severely smoke damaged, it did not catch alight and the fire did not spread to the building. The damage was discovered by a builder who was on his way to work at the new M&Co. site- the fire was already out. Speaking to the Herald on Thursday, Chris Lovett, owner of Tudors, said: "The rubbish has been put out for collection this morning and looks like it was set alight. "It is a shock but business people just get on with it. The whole frontage will have to be replaced." CCTV inside the building which was directed on the doorway will be given to police but officers say they can not yet confirm if the fire was arson. Chris added: "I think it highlights the big issue Sidmouth has in the High Street- there is no CCTV in the town and this is a good example of why it is needed." If there were cameras in the town, Chris believes it would deter people from committing anti-social behaviour. The power in the restaurant was cut off by the fire and Tudors was closed yesterday but Chris is hoping to re-open on Friday. She said: "There was no internal damage so hopefully it will be business as usual tomorrow." A fire crew attended the scene yesterday to inspect the damage but did not receive any reports when the blaze was raging. Police are appealing for anybody with information about the blaze to ring them on 08452 777444 quoting log number 137 01/10. It's all very well to continue the gum flapping about CCTV - what is needed is a move forward to installation or an admission that this is dead in the water. Perhaps it is time for donations to be refunded to the contributors and let the chamber of commerce move onto their next project - Port Royal!!??    Report

05/10/2009, 4:37 PM Local Yocal Joined on 01/04/2008 Devon Posts 172 Re: CCTV - Apparently the CCTV system is being costed and put out to tender.......    Report

06/10/2009, 4:14 PM Seadog Joined on 05/03/2007 Posts 605 Re: CCTV - Thats all well and good but, where did you hear this? The galley radio? The chamber of commerce have not made any announcements and its all gone quiet in the Sidmouth Herald who were covering the WATCH campaign every week a couple of years ago. This is public money that we are talking about and those accountable should provide regular updates on what is happening.      Report

29/01/2010, 1:13 PM Seadog Joined on 05/03/2007 Posts 605 Re: CCTV - I see, from reports in today's Sidmouth Herald, that during a recent meeting to set next year's council tax level, the town council have moved the money they had set aside for the CCTV system into other budget points - this has allowed a smaller increase in next years tax level and also released £5000 to give to Folk Week. There was also comment that the CCTV project is now not likely to move forward. Are the chamber of commerce of a similar mind? Will cash donations now be returned to the public who gave in good faith?    Report

01/02/2010, 1:45 PM Local Yocal Joined on 01/04/2008 Devon Posts 172 Re: CCTV - Well I cannot see how they can continue holding onto the money. Its ironic that the businesses and council only pledged money and it has been easy for them to simply withdraw their pledges at no real cost to their pockets. It is the private householder/members of the public who actually sent in the cheques - these have been banked and are presumeably making interest. For who? If the project is not going ahead why are these donations being retained?    Report

02/02/2010, 8:03 PM Ian Woolger Joined on 09/09/2008 Budleigh Salterton Posts 211 Re: CCTV - It has been interesting to read this ongoing saga of Sidmouth's CCTV. Which seems to have been dragging on for an interminable period of time. My question for what its worth, is "why do you want CCTV"? As a perfect example, the fire in the "Tudors" wheelie bin, reported earlier on in the topic is a classic example. Why does anyone think that CCTV would have stopped this fire? The cameras are not "Mr Plod on the Beat", they are merely an "alleged deterrent" which  is akin to shutting the stable door after the horse has bolted. They merely "record crime" and force crime to move to other locations, where there are no cameras. Unless they are linked to a fully manned 24 hour control room, backed by fast response units of Police Officers, they are only another method of gaining evidence, to be used in later investigations. As a country, we allegedly have the most CCTV cameras in the world, per head of population, more even than the regime in North Korea. Our every move from birth to grave, is captured by this Orwellian government and stored somewhere on their vast database, do we really need any more?  What we do need, is "coppers on the beat" and that is proper coppers, not "plastic ersatz PCSO's", we need officers with the FULL power of the law at their disposal and the balls to use it...But alas, we know that this is not going to happen, our "Police Force" is led by a Union, who don't want to be doing the "dirty work anymore". They want "minions" to get dirty, whilst they deal with "admin" and "political crime" at the behest of their masters in NU Labour. The less coppers on the beat, the more scared the public are of the "boogeymen" that lurk in every corner, intent on terrorism and skulduggery, thus forcing the public to beg for more cameras and more laws to protect them from the spectres conjured up by those in power. We have had the right to defend ourselves taken away and even in our own homes we are powerless to tackle burglars for fear of prosecution, by the very people who fail in their duty to protect us. CCTV will not make Sidmouth, or for that matter any town safer, so I would campaign for more Cops not Cameras...IMHO of course It is criminal to steal a purse, daring to steal a fortune, a mark of greatness to steal a crown. The blame diminishes as the guilt increases    Report

06/03/2010, 11:21 AM Seadog Joined on 05/03/2007 Posts 605 Re: CCTV - Donations being returned. I think the issue currently being dealt with in this thread is the amount of time this project has taken to get 'no-where' and from the figure given in the latest Herald story - that the chamber of commerce currently holds £6400 in donations - shows that this is certainly dead in the water. That amount of money would hardly cover the cost of brackets to mount the cameras let alone the technology and maintenance that will be required. This has not been managed very well - which is a shame as it had a lot of support and momentum at the beginning. Typically, the businesses and council(s) had not stumped up any money 'up front' but simply pledged varying amounts - some of these pledges have infact been withdrawn. It is also inconceivable to think that councils will make any funds available now or in the future or make any committments that will cost, considering the current and future economic climate. Perhaps it is time for the remainder of the private supporters to request their money back.    Report

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